Hi Nurani,
Here is my response below to your question:
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Nurani Nimpuno nurani@nimblebits.net wrote:
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When I was suggesting edits, this is exactly what I had in mind. 80% vote is practical once the voting is detached from meetings. Mechanisms like electronic voting provide just what we need to engender this level of participation.
I am not sure I understand what you mean here.
Are you suggesting we vote electronically for everything and take no decisions during meetings? If so, I object again:
No, I am not suggesting this. My suggestion was limited to major decisions -- in this case changing RC Procedure. The rest of the decisions will continue to be reached via consensus, as specified in the Charter.
Just to seek clarifications on the various positions here: Filiz, are you advocating that the operating procedures can be changed simply through consensus in the group?
No, I am not advocating the operating procedures can be changed simply through consensus. But I am advocating most of the decisions can be made through consensus in our group and not every decision should be sent for voting.
I think this particular unclarity and corresponding disagreement raises due to the structure of the document and some specific wording it uses. My attempt to explain is as follows:
Section 6 is "Rules of Order". 6.1 and 6.2 makes sense, talking about "Rough Consensus" and "Voting" as 2 possibles rules of order that can be used in our dealings.
But then the document jumps into talking about "Amending Operating Procedures" as section 6.3, which is not really a Rule of Order, but a specific topic which we are now discussing which rule of order should be used.
I suggest to remove 6.3 and instead have a Section 7 as follows and remove the word "meeting" too from this section:
7. Amending Operating Procedure These Operating Procedures may be amended by the Review Committee at any time. The proposed amendment must receive a majority vote of 80% of all eligible voting members of the Review Committee (not including abstentions).
I hope this helps. FIliz
And Douglas, are you advocating that the operating procedures only can be changed through an 80% majority vote?
If so, do others care to comment on this?
All the best, Nurani
Regards,
Douglas Onyango, PRINCE 2, ITILv3 UG: +256 776 716 138
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