Hi Nurani,

Here is my response below to your question:

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Nurani Nimpuno <nurani@nimblebits.net> wrote:

>>> When I was suggesting edits, this is exactly what I had in mind. 80%
>>> vote is practical once the voting is detached from meetings.
>>> Mechanisms like electronic voting provide just what we need to
>>> engender this level of participation.
>
>> I am not sure I understand what you mean here.
>>
>> Are you suggesting we vote electronically for everything and take no
>> decisions during meetings?
>> If so, I object again:
>
> No, I am not suggesting this. My suggestion was limited to major
> decisions -- in this case changing RC Procedure. The rest of the
> decisions will continue to be reached via consensus, as specified in
> the Charter.

Just to seek clarifications on the various positions here:
Filiz, are you advocating that the operating procedures can be changed simply through consensus in the group?

No, I am not advocating the operating procedures can be changed simply through consensus.

But I am advocating most of the decisions can be made through consensus in our group and not every decision should be sent for voting.

I think this particular unclarity and corresponding disagreement raises due to the structure of the document and some specific wording it uses. My attempt to explain is as follows:

Section 6 is "Rules of Order". 6.1 and 6.2 makes sense, talking about "Rough Consensus" and "Voting" as 2 possibles rules of order that can be used in our dealings.

But then the document jumps into talking about "Amending Operating Procedures" as section 6.3, which is not really a Rule of Order, but a specific topic which we are now discussing which rule of order should be used.

I suggest to remove 6.3 and instead have a Section 7 as follows and remove the word "meeting" too from this section:

7. Amending Operating Procedure

These Operating Procedures may be amended by the Review Committee at any time. The proposed amendment must receive a majority vote of 80% of all eligible voting members of the Review Committee (not including abstentions).

I hope this helps.

FIliz

And Douglas, are you advocating that the operating procedures only can be changed through an 80% majority vote?

If so, do others care to comment on this?

All the best,
Nurani

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