From: Trang Nguyen <trang.nguyen@icann.orgmailto:trang.nguyen@icann.org> Date: Monday, October 3, 2016 at 11:02 AM To: Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.commailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com>, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett@afrinic.netmailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net> Cc: "iana-ipr@nro.netmailto:iana-ipr@nro.net" <iana-ipr@nro.netmailto:iana-ipr@nro.net> Subject: Re: [Iana-ipr] Removal of the term "IANA" from documentation

All,

This page somehow got missed when we were reviewing updates to iana.org pages. As flagged by Greg and Alan, removing "IANA" is indeed not what we are doing at all. Rather, the reference to "IANA" is being updated to comply with the usage requirements of the IPR agreements. We have taken down the page and will post an updated page soon.

Best,

Trang

From: <iana-ipr-bounces@nro.netmailto:iana-ipr-bounces@nro.net> on behalf of Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.commailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com> Date: Monday, October 3, 2016 at 10:23 AM To: Alan Barrett <alan.barrett@afrinic.netmailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net> Cc: "iana-ipr@nro.netmailto:iana-ipr@nro.net" <iana-ipr@nro.netmailto:iana-ipr@nro.net> Subject: Re: [Iana-ipr] Removal of the term "IANA" from documentation

Alan,

Thank you for pointing this out. It concerns me as well.

I assume this is based on an interpretation of the IANA trademark license.

What is this interpretation, and how is it is being communicated?, etc.

What are the changes, exactly? What effect will they have? Will there be any technical effects whatsoever.

It's unfortunate that this information wasn't communicated to this group during the planning phase of this project.

My gut reaction is that this is potentially a misinterpretation or over-reaction to elements of the trademark license. But I don't want to jump to conclusions without additional information.

Greg

On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 2:12 AM, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett@afrinic.netmailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net> wrote: I see this text at <https://www.iana.org/help/pti-transition%5Biana.org]https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.iana.org_help_pti-2Dtransition&d=DQMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=NghSLFqweTwAOFMJpbYA3LcVJ0Vvvw6-wxrKoS5l6VY&m=8D5ZSNey_5p-9F7aM3jOyNs7JYOB2orGRm_PxjbMW20&s=WBTcF9KlnTvarUY-qk2RKwwz5rgFp_-eAjT46PD9yWM&e=>:

[[[ The term "IANA" can no longer be used how it has been used in the past. As a result much of our documentation has been revised to remove the term. ]]]

I could understand if ICANN/PTI were changing the bare term "IANA" to more specific terms like "IANA operator", "IANA functions", "IANA services", etc., but removing the term doesn't seem useful to me. Could somebody explain the reasoning behind this change?

Alan Barrett

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