It was my understanding that we (this group) were awaiting feedback (mark-up/comment) from IETF's counsel and from NRO's counsel.  Indeed, CWG originally held off on sending the document to our counsel; our plan was to send our counsel a package that included the other communities' counsels' comments on the document.  We only sent the document to CWG counsel after being told (possibly more than once) that IETF's counsel's feedback was not imminent.

Until I asked my question above, it was my still understanding that we were waiting for that feedback.  I don't believe I was alone in that understanding. I'm a bit surprised to find we are not waiting for anyhing.  I didn't see anything sent to this list that said IETF's counsel had reviewed and signed off on the document (something saying the Trust was okay with the document would not have conveyed anything about what counsel was doing or saying). 

It was also my understanding that we would be weighing and trying to "harmonize" the feedback from each group's counsel .  It's typical when multiple parties are working on a document for counsel to have a mark-up and/or comments that is sent to the other parties (apart from whatever feedback they gave solely to their client).  

I suppose what you're saying is that IETF's counsel had no mark-up or comments to give to the other parties and that the document is acceptable "as is" (as a jumping off point for the full agreements).

Well, at least this has been clarified.

Greg



On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:27 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 10:57:06PM -0400, Greg Shatan wrote:
> It's my understanding that IETF's counsel has not yet completed its review
> of the Proposed Principal Terms document.

Nope, I sent something to the list some while ago saying the Trust
said it was ok with it.

> When does IETF expect to receive
> counsel's review and circulate it to this group?

We don't expect to circulate it to this group.  That's a review
delivered to the Trust so the Trust could decide what to do.

> Also, has the IETF or
> IETF's counsel seen Sidley's mark-up yet (and if so, when can we expect to
> hear back about it)?

I have circulated it, yes.  I'll poke again.

> Without these steps, it doesn't seem that the IETF can be ready to
> negotiate the agreement(s)

Why?  We're ready to instruct our counsel to go negotiate based on
this set of principles.

A

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