
Hi Please complete the poll for next week teleconference http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr regards German

Thanks Paul, Lise, Izumi, Nurani and Greg for completing the poll. Please those pending to submit their input please do it at your earliest convenience Regards German
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Hi Jari and Johanthan Please could you provide your feedback asap Thanks German
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Thanks Paul, Lise, Izumi, Nurani and Greg for completing the poll.
Please those pending to submit their input please do it at your earliest convenience
Regards
German
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Hi Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr Unfortunately, at the suggested time Greg is not available. Jari has not responded yet the poll Are the groups represented in the IPR ok to proceed or should we look for an alternative time ? Looking forward to receiving your comments Regards German
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On 1 Feb 2016, at 16:51, German Valdez <german@nro.net> wrote:
Hi
Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC
Fantastic, another 1AM call. OK. Alan Barrett

Thanks German. 1) Greg's attendance I suggest to leave it to Greg, Jonathan, and Lise whether it is a must for Greg to attend the next call, for efficient coordination with the names community. For now, the call is scheduled as Wednesday February 3rd at 2100UTC, but please raise it, if you see the need to reschedule the poll, when Greg can attend. 2) Quorum requirements To avoid the same situation as the last call - (i.e.,not everyone needed was there) May we confirm who are the must to attend from each community? For the numbers, at least one RIR, at least one CRISP. Our requirement is covered for the coming call as scheduled. 3) Action Items I think it would be good to confirm the agenda of the coming call. Below are the remaining action items from the previous calls, from my memory:
- the protocols (Andrew/Jari) will provide written explanations on terms which were highlighted to need further coordination: 1) Quality control 2) Change of IPR holder in case of not meeting the needs of the OCs 3) the IETF Trust can unilaterally terminate the agreement
In addition, we are waiting for feedback from RIRs on the Principal Terms. Google doc shared by Greg: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4... I stop here it here, given my role is now an observer in the process. Izumi On 2016/02/01 21:51, German Valdez wrote:
Hi
Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
Unfortunately, at the suggested time Greg is not available. Jari has not responded yet the poll
Are the groups represented in the IPR ok to proceed or should we look for an alternative time ?
Looking forward to receiving your comments
Regards
German
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Hi
Please complete the poll for next week teleconference
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
regards
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Hello Izumi & Colleagues, A couple of points: 1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and either Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time. 3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9 So, in summary, it seems that we do need to re-open / extend the poll and provide input to the document in the interim Thanks, Jonathan -----Original Message----- From: Izumi Okutani [mailto:izumi@nic.ad.jp] Sent: 02 February 2016 02:12 To: German Valdez <german@nro.net>; iana-ipr@nro.net Subject: Re: [Iana-ipr] Doodle Poll February 2016 Thanks German. 1) Greg's attendance I suggest to leave it to Greg, Jonathan, and Lise whether it is a must for Greg to attend the next call, for efficient coordination with the names community. For now, the call is scheduled as Wednesday February 3rd at 2100UTC, but please raise it, if you see the need to reschedule the poll, when Greg can attend. 2) Quorum requirements To avoid the same situation as the last call - (i.e.,not everyone needed was there) May we confirm who are the must to attend from each community? For the numbers, at least one RIR, at least one CRISP. Our requirement is covered for the coming call as scheduled. 3) Action Items I think it would be good to confirm the agenda of the coming call. Below are the remaining action items from the previous calls, from my memory:
- the protocols (Andrew/Jari) will provide written explanations on terms which were highlighted to need further coordination: 1) Quality control 2) Change of IPR holder in case of not meeting the needs of the OCs 3) the IETF Trust can unilaterally terminate the agreement
In addition, we are waiting for feedback from RIRs on the Principal Terms. Google doc shared by Greg: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9 I stop here it here, given my role is now an observer in the process. Izumi On 2016/02/01 21:51, German Valdez wrote:
Hi
Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
Unfortunately, at the suggested time Greg is not available. Jari has not responded yet the poll
Are the groups represented in the IPR ok to proceed or should we look for an alternative time ?
Looking forward to receiving your comments
Regards
German
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Please complete the poll for next week teleconference
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On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:27:54AM -0000, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
So, in summary, it seems that we do need to re-open / extend the poll and provide input to the document in the interim
The more work we do on the document, the less time we need spend on the phone :) (I've already sent a number of comments.) A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com

Thank you Jonathan. Helpful to know the required participants from the CWG and understood about Greg's schedule.
So, in summary, it seems that we do need to re-open / extend the poll and provide input to the document in the interim
Noted and agree. Izumi On 2016/02/02 15:27, Jonathan Robinson wrote:
Hello Izumi & Colleagues,
A couple of points:
1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and either Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time. 3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
So, in summary, it seems that we do need to re-open / extend the poll and provide input to the document in the interim
Thanks,
Jonathan
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Thanks German.
1) Greg's attendance I suggest to leave it to Greg, Jonathan, and Lise whether it is a must for Greg to attend the next call, for efficient coordination with the names community. For now, the call is scheduled as Wednesday February 3rd at 2100UTC, but please raise it, if you see the need to reschedule the poll, when Greg can attend.
2) Quorum requirements To avoid the same situation as the last call - (i.e.,not everyone needed was there)
May we confirm who are the must to attend from each community? For the numbers, at least one RIR, at least one CRISP. Our requirement is covered for the coming call as scheduled.
3) Action Items I think it would be good to confirm the agenda of the coming call.
Below are the remaining action items from the previous calls, from my memory:
- the protocols (Andrew/Jari) will provide written explanations on terms which were highlighted to need further coordination: 1) Quality control 2) Change of IPR holder in case of not meeting the needs of the OCs 3) the IETF Trust can unilaterally terminate the agreement
In addition, we are waiting for feedback from RIRs on the Principal Terms. Google doc shared by Greg: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
I stop here it here, given my role is now an observer in the process.
Izumi
On 2016/02/01 21:51, German Valdez wrote:
Hi
Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
Unfortunately, at the suggested time Greg is not available. Jari has not responded yet the poll
Are the groups represented in the IPR ok to proceed or should we look for an alternative time ?
Looking forward to receiving your comments
Regards
German
On 28 Jan 2016, at 2:48 PM, German Valdez <german@nro.net> wrote:
Hi
Please complete the poll for next week teleconference
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regards
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On 2 Feb 2016, at 10:27, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
Hello Izumi & Colleagues,
A couple of points:
1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and either Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time.
Let us then extend the doodle poll, and choose a time when Greg is available. http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
I have read previous comments on the document, but I have not added any comments myself. I agree that we need to work further on the document prior to a call. Alan Barrett

Hi I have extended the poll including next week days, sorry again for the granularity but there is no fixed time I can identify for this group for generally work for the teleconference. http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr Remember, you need to go to your name at the left side of the screen and select the edit option to add your input. German
On 2 Feb 2016, at 9:30 PM, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett@afrinic.net> wrote:
On 2 Feb 2016, at 10:27, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
Hello Izumi & Colleagues,
A couple of points:
1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and either Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time.
Let us then extend the doodle poll, and choose a time when Greg is available.
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
I have read previous comments on the document, but I have not added any comments myself. I agree that we need to work further on the document prior to a call.
Alan Barrett
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So this means that today's call is cancelled, right? A On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 03:30:21PM +0400, Alan Barrett wrote:
On 2 Feb 2016, at 10:27, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info> wrote:
Hello Izumi & Colleagues,
A couple of points:
1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and either Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time.
Let us then extend the doodle poll, and choose a time when Greg is available.
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4 ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
I have read previous comments on the document, but I have not added any comments myself. I agree that we need to work further on the document prior to a call.
Alan Barrett
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I encourage you all to review the document so that I can accept all non-controversial changes now in track changes. That doesn't mean the point is closed, but it will help us focus. Thank you Andrew for taking the time with the document. Greg On Wednesday, February 3, 2016, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
So this means that today's call is cancelled, right?
A
On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 03:30:21PM +0400, Alan Barrett wrote:
On 2 Feb 2016, at 10:27, Jonathan Robinson <jrobinson@afilias.info
<javascript:;>> wrote:
Hello Izumi & Colleagues,
A couple of points:
1. On quorum, it seems that for now at least, we must have Greg and
either
Lise or myself. 2. Having spoken with Greg, he has a real challenge with the proposed time.
Let us then extend the doodle poll, and choose a time when Greg is available.
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
3. It will be most useful, and arguably a necessary precursor to a meeting, if participants in this group can review and provide input to the current document. That way, we can use the meeting to discuss the document and any input on it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4
ad4/edit?ts=56a78ed9
I have read previous comments on the document, but I have not added any comments myself. I agree that we need to work further on the document prior to a call.
Alan Barrett
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On 3 Feb 2016, at 17:42, Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
So this means that today's call is cancelled, right?
Yes, today’s call is cancelled. Please re-visit the poll at http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr Alan Barrett

On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 06:02:35PM +0400, Alan Barrett wrote:
Please re-visit the poll at http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
Already done. Thanks! A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com

Hi Comment below
On 2 Feb 2016, at 12:11 PM, Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp> wrote:
Thanks German.
1) Greg's attendance I suggest to leave it to Greg, Jonathan, and Lise whether it is a must for Greg to attend the next call, for efficient coordination with the names community. For now, the call is scheduled as Wednesday February 3rd at 2100UTC, but please raise it, if you see the need to reschedule the poll, when Greg can attend.
2) Quorum requirements To avoid the same situation as the last call - (i.e.,not everyone needed was there)
May we confirm who are the must to attend from each community? For the numbers, at least one RIR, at least one CRISP. Our requirement is covered for the coming call as scheduled.
Please may I stress to clarify this point, this would help us to identify a suitable time for all operational communities. Thanks
3) Action Items I think it would be good to confirm the agenda of the coming call.
Below are the remaining action items from the previous calls, from my memory:
- the protocols (Andrew/Jari) will provide written explanations on terms which were highlighted to need further coordination: 1) Quality control 2) Change of IPR holder in case of not meeting the needs of the OCs 3) the IETF Trust can unilaterally terminate the agreement
In addition, we are waiting for feedback from RIRs on the Principal Terms. Google doc shared by Greg: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oR3nmHl1fK7BEWOBK65KyvnmhTJZX70j9q4Ne9i4...
I stop here it here, given my role is now an observer in the process.
Izumi
German
On 2016/02/01 21:51, German Valdez wrote:
Hi
Based on the input received so far may I propose to have the IPR teleconference on Wednesday February 3rd at 9:00 PM UTC
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
Unfortunately, at the suggested time Greg is not available. Jari has not responded yet the poll
Are the groups represented in the IPR ok to proceed or should we look for an alternative time ?
Looking forward to receiving your comments
Regards
German
On 28 Jan 2016, at 2:48 PM, German Valdez <german@nro.net> wrote:
Hi
Please complete the poll for next week teleconference
http://doodle.com/poll/ph2iakpvbkkrvfwr
regards
German
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